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thanks so much for watching. "the ed show" is next. >> good evening, americans. and welcome to "the ed show," live from new york. let's get to work. this new marketplace was built on the massachusetts model. all the parade of horribles, the worst predictions about health care reform in massachusetts never came true. they're the same arguments that you're hearing now. >> some people like to drive a ford, not a ferrari. >> hello, ladies. >> you're taking away their choice. >> i want to really congratulate
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my republican pals for being absolutely 1,000% consistent. >> some of the republican theater here is working. >> you love what's wrong with the website. >> would you like them here or there? . >> and you detest what's working in the affordable care act. >> i would not like them here or there, i would not like them anywhere. >> joining me now are the two men who helped create both romneycare and the affordable care act. >> we feel a little bit like the maytag repair men now. it's very clear in massachusetts, the law is working well. >> with a free market-based system that gets all of our citizens in the system. not with a government takeover. >> it doesn't mean a government takeover. connect the progressive vision of health care for all with some ideas about markets and competition that had long been championed by conservatives. ♪ ♪ i'm stepping up
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>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. big baseball game tonight in boston. but something really changed happened just within the last hour. the clean-up hitter sdepd to the plate and knocked it out of the park. president obama proved that he can hit the curveball. because that's all the mainstream media has been throwing at the american people as of late. one curveball after another. so the president, at the top of his game, like the world series, steps out and lays it right on the line and sets the record straight. we start with breaking news tonight. president obama just wrapped up a big speech in boston, massachusetts, speaking in the big city. the beantown. you know, it's the same place governor mitt romney signed romneycare into law, back in april of 2006. president obama's speech obviously today was designed to draw the parallels between the success of the health care law in massachusetts, known as romney care, and now the actually law, known as obama care.
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the affordable care act. president obama came out and he just dispelled a bunch of lies through a bunch of water on the biggest myth about the affordable care act. he called out the so-called junk insurance policies. this is what we focused our program on last night. it's almost as if the president was watching verbatim. junk insurance is what this is all about. and the president, front and center today, explained that this is what the law was designed to get rid of! >> it is also true that some americans who have health insurance plans that they bought on their own through the old individual market are get being notices from their insurance company suggesting that somehow because the affordable care act, they may be losing their existing health insurance plans. this has been the latest flurry in the news. because there's been a lot of confusion and misinformation about this, i want to explain just what's going on. one of the things health reform was designed to do was to help
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not only the uninsured, but also the underinsured. and there are a number of americans, fewer than 5% of americans, who have got cut-rate plans, that don't offer real financial protection in the event of a serious illnesses or an accident. remember, before the affordable care act, these bad apple insurers had free rein. every single year to limit the care that you received or used minor preexisting conditions to jack up your premiums. or bill you into bankruptcy. so a lot of people thought they were buying coverage and it turned out not to be so good. before the affordable care act, the worst of these plans routinely dropped thousands of americans every single year. and on average, premiums for folks who stayed in their plans for more than a year shot up about 15% a year. this wasn't just bad for those folks who were -- had these
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policies. it was bad for all of us. because, again, when tragedy strikes, and folks can't pay their medical bills, everybody else picks up the tab. now, if you had one of these substandard plans before the affordable care act became law, and you really liked that plan, you were able to keep it. that's what i said when i was running for office. that was part of the promise we made. but ever since the law was passed, if insurers decided to downgrade or cancel these substandard plans, what we said, under the law is you've got to replace them with quality, comprehensive coverage. because that too was a central premise of the affordable care act. from the very beginning. and today that promise means that every plan in the marketplace covers a corset of minimum benefits, like maternity care and preventative care and mental health care and prescription drugs and hospitalization. and they can't use allergies or
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pregnancy or a sports injury or the fact that you're a woman to charge you more. they can't do that anymore. they can't do that anymore. if you couldn't afford coverage because your child had asthma, well, he's now covered. if you're one of the 45 million americans with a mental illness, you're now covered. if you're a young couple expecting a baby, you're now covered, you're safer. the system is more secure for you and it's more secure for everybody. so if you're getting one of these letters, just shop around in the new marketplace. that's what it's for. because of the tax credits that we're offering, and the competition between insurers, most people are going to be able to get better comprehensive health care plans for the same
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price or even cheaper than projected. >> see ya, republicans, you're on the wrong side of history. did you hear what the president just said? if you're getting one of these letters that the republicans are so concerned about, just go to the exchange. you will get better insurance and your prices will go down. it is hilarious to see what has unfolded in these meetings on capitol hill, these hearings. we have seen now the republicans step forward and defend junk insurance. what else would you expect from the republican party, but a bunch of damn junk. and the president didn't stop there. he went on to call out the mainstream media for misleading the public about obama care. >> for the fewer than 5% of americans who buy insurance on your own, you will be getting a better deal.
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so anyone peddling the notion that insurers are cancelling people's plan without mentioning that almost all the insurers are encouraging people to join better plans with the same carrier and stronger benefits and stronger protections, while others will be able to get better plans with new carriers through the marketplace, and then many will get new help to pay for these better plans and make them actually cheaper. if you leave that stuff out, you're being grossly misled, to say the least. >> grossly misleading. no, he didn't call him a liar. just grossly misleading. which i think is even worse. because if what a journalist really -- their obligation is to do what, explore all the facts and present the entire story. clearly, this has not been the case in the mainstream media. the focus has been, and the defense of the republican party, is they're so concerned all of a sudden about all of these people who don't have insurance and they're getting these notices and they don't know why. you know why they don't know
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why? is because they haven't read the law. i want watch some of this hearing today with kathleen sebelius, the health and human services secretary. georgia congressman, your doctor, you can't tell me you've read this law. marsha blackburn, we're not going to let you off the hook either. i think these republicans out to come out, raise their right hand and say i have read obama care, first page to last page. they wouldn't oh be bringing up these issues if they knew. it is clearly stated in the law about what happens to people who are going to lose the junk insurance. but the republicans have taken it, and they hoodwinked some of the people in the mainstream media to believe this is really a bad deal, and what obama is really doing is, well, he's screwing you. come on, folks. this is about moving america forward. john f. kennedy, we played a clip of him last night on this program from 50 years ago,
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talking about how other industrialized countries around the world are ahead of us. and they're still ahead of us. this is the catch-up mode. this is america getting the game for the american people. this is protecting consumers. the president at the top of his game today. it's almost as if -- i harken back to the first debate, that the president had with mitt romney and really, i mean, i was critical of it. a lot of people were. gosh, was the president even in the game? it's almost like a rope adope. it's almost, okay, let him -- have these hearings, let all the lies come in. and then i'm going to go to the backyard of romney care, where it's working in massachusetts, and i'm going to dispel the biggest lies that are out there. and the biggest one out there as of late is that consumers aren't going to get a better deal. and the bottom line is that they are. this is good for america. i hope the president goes to kentucky. i will be in kentucky on monday and on this program monday night. i will bring you a success story about how obama care is working, and how over 26,000 people have
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already signed up in a state that had a lot of folks that didn't have health insurance. but i'm warning you, it's a positive story. it's a positive story. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question. will republicans continue to defend junk insurance plans? text a for yes, b for no to 67622. you can always go to our blog and leave a comment at we'll bring the results later on in the show. for more on this, let's bring in congressman james clyburn of south carolina, a veteran who was on the democratic leadership team. congressman, great to have you with us tonight. >> well, thank you for having me. >> your reaction to what you just heard the president say to the media spin that people are getting on these cancellation letters. >> well, i think the president was spot-on with his speech today. it was, as you said, he hit it out of the park. he happened to be in boston,
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where there would be some folks attempting to do the same thing tonight on a different front. but i enjoyed the speech. i didn't see 100% of it, but i think i saw about 90% of it. and i think that he explained it so that everybody will understand it. and that is, simply pwhat the affordable care act did was to develop a floor, beneath which insurance companies were not going to be allowed to operate. come out of the basement. bring your plans up to standard. and stop putting in fine print that people really don't know what they have until they go and try to use it. i happen to be one of those people back in my younger days. i had to end up paying out of my pocket for my first two children, simply because i didn't read the fine print. i've talked to many people in my district who have seen
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themselves dropped from coverage as soon as they started treatment for the catastrophic illness. i've seen some who said to me that they have gotten letters from their insurance companies telling them that they're running out of benefits because of cancer treatments or other kind of treatments for their children. so this is what we're saying. this is not going to be allowed to continue, and it may be that you like what you got. simply because you've never tried to use it. >> congressman -- >> i think the president did well today. >> the whole point is to do away with junk policies and what the president said just today, it's not only the uninsured, it's the underinsured. it's the folks who are out there that have got the lousy policies that aren't going to meet the standards of what we want for health care coverage in this country, and now the insurance industry is going to have to pony up and do a better job of serving the public. did you ever think, in all of your years of congress, and you've been around a long time, not no date you, but the fact
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is, the republicans are defending junk policies. they're defending poor service to the american consumers. how else do we read it? >> that's exactly what they have been doing. but let me tell you something else, ed. it's kind of interesting that i don't see a lot of talk about those letters that many policyholders got from insurance companies a few months ago. those rebates they got. because the insurance companies did not return to their native percent of the premiums they paid in. a lot of people i talked to got some checks. they didn't know where they came from. i wish those insurance companies when they sent those checks sent to them, because of the affordable care act, we are returning to you some of the premiums you paid in, because we did not send back 80% of the premiums that you paid. that would have been a very nice thing for them to do. if they really were wanting to be honest with their policyholders. >> and congressman, how
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important, how critical do you think it is, that the president stays on point with this issue, and calls out grossly misleading reports about obama care? i mean, i think that -- i almost have a sense, a feeling of heart tonight that the worm has turned. that -- >> o i think so. >> the right wing has been exposed, that we all know what they're about right now. and they have left no stone unturned, no lie is going to turn this around. >> i think you are exactly right about that. i was watching the president, listening, and i got a pretty good feeling tonight. i got a good feeling today, to tell you the truth, that people are calling my office, and people are saying to me that they are beginning to see through this thing. and i think you're right. go to kentucky. i talked to a former member from kentucky last night, one of his staffers last night, and they are having a tremendously positive experience in kentucky,
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and i believe that the same thing to happen in a state like my state if we had some leadership that said let's take ownership of this. let's do something for our constituents to give them a positive, uplifting spirit within which to go about their duties and responsibilities to this great nation of ours. >> no doubt. i will be in kentucky on monday. i'm warning the audience, it's going to be a positive story. i've got to bring it -- congressman james clyburn, always a pleasure. thank you, sir. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter at ed show and on facebook. we appreciate that. coming up, the greatest hits from today's hearings with health chief kathleen sebelius. stay with us. good job! still running in the morning? yeah.
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start today with a free one-on-one review of your retirement plan. welcome back to "the ed show." we moved ask ed up tonight. our first question from rick fabian. he wants to know, do you think republican politicians ever think about how they will be viewed by future historians. well, actually, they're certainly not acting like it. no, i don't. i think that they think that they can lie their way out of anything. but for the record, and i don't think that they're going to be able to wiggle out of this one, no republicans have been on board with president obama when it comes to health care reform, and through all of the debate and obstruction and implementation, they have offered no plan, no plan whatsoever to help the uninsured or underinsured in this country. i think that is going to be tough to erase from the record
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books and the history books. our next question comes from donna merino. why is the gop better at messaging than dems? i'm not so sure they are. i just think they have more of it. fact of the matter is, 90% of the electronic media, which is owned in this country is owned by conservatives. they own it, they program it, they control it. and, you know, i've said all along, if i owned 600 radio stations like some of these big radio companies, i wouldn't have limbaugh on any of them. ownership has its privileges. the fact of the matter is, when you've got 500 right wing talk show hosts running around the country with bullet points from the heritage foundation after 20 years of doing this, it's going to have an impact on how people think. i think talk radio has had a great influence on putting people in a very entrenched way of thinking on certain ideologies. and they do a good job of communicating, no doubt about it. and most of the conservative think tanks do a great job of
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using that medium. and so when they got the microphone, when the fairness doctrine was knocked down, things turned a lot in this country. and getting people entrenched in how they think is really what it's all about. but this is undoubtedly and krauthammer talked about it last -- in recent days on shows. that this is the game-changer for the liberals in this country. this is why obama care needs to be successful. this is generational change. this is something that the american people will always hang with the progressive movement. and they will be certainly indebted to democrats for making this happen because the republicans have been a no-show. and it is messaging. so there are victories on both sides. lots more coming up here on "the ed show." stay with us. a can of del monte green beans?
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down really to the wire. depending on the poll that you're looking at. the race could be tighter than expected. a roanoke college poll hasterry mccoloradoive with a lead over ken cuccinelli. quinnipiac university finds mcallive with a smaller lead over the attorney general. no matter which poll you're looking at, this is so clear. social issues matter. and women could make the difference in this election. and, of course, turnout. now, according to quinnipiac, female voters in virginia backed mcallive over cuccinelli. the "washington post" finds the margin bigger with kuch necessarily trailing by what, 24 points among whelm.cuccinelli trailing by what, 24 points among whelm. this could be the reason. cuccinelli was one of three attorneys general who did not join a bipartisan push for reauthorization of the violence against women act. also cuccinelli was the first attorney general to sue the
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federal government over obama care, which expands access for women health care. he voted against a senate bill, stating that contraception is not abortion. he sponsored personhood bills, which would give legal rights to embryos from the moment of fertilization and potentially interfere with access to basic birth control. as a virginia senator, he pushed an amendment to defund state support for nonprofit clinics that perform abortions like planned parenthood. the 2012 election was not the end of the war on women. cuccinelli has spent his entire career as an elected official trying to roll back the progress on women's reproductive rights. now, by some counts, he is just four percentage points away from becoming governor of virginia, which is why it's more important than ever for women in the state of virginia to get out and vote. joining me now, rapid response panel,ter -- kneel, president of the national organization of women and joan walsh of
2:28 pm great to have both of you with us. this is a powder keg, which i think has implications for 2016. terry, how important is this race next tuesday? >> it's absolutely one of the most important you can imagine. virginia has a history of electing a governor of the other party from who won the presidency in the previous year. so in 2012, president obama is re-elected, and following history, you would expect a republican to win the virginia gubernatorial election. i don't think that's going to happen. and one thing that is really new, the now activists in virginia are telling me the women they're calling -- the people they're calling to get out the vote and calling forterry mcallive, they are voting on the issue of abortion. they're appalled at ken cuccinel cuccinelli, apolled to his opposition to birth control. he opposes birth control for rape victims, emergency
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contracepti contraception. so it is galvanizing women. >> well, that's the next question. in -- what does this really do to the electorate? does this motivate voters? i mean, that really is the key here. all of the radicalness that he has brought forward throughout his entire career. joan, will this motivate women voters? >> you know, i think so. we can't be complacent. this is going to be a turnout election. it's an off year election and those often favor republicans. but this year it seems like the democratic electorate is fired up. the only good thing, groups like terry's and other groups aren't spread over the country fighting fires. there are a lot of people putting resources into this. and you are seeing for the first time --terry mcallive was not afraid to take on issues like gay marriage and abortion. he was not afraid to stand up on the social issues, which a lot of democrats in the past have scheid away from. they're learning that women want to be spoken to as adults, and that women on their own are really quite upset about --
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about these restrictions on reproductive health and specifically abortion. >> and even though they have been upset in past elections, and if there have been elections where one candidate wanted to attack women's access to reproductive health care, the other candidate was site. what we're finding, one of the activities who said, politicians who stand up for women, the women will show up for them. >> what if cuccinelli wins? >> that would be a disastrous indicator for 2014. >> he will do everything he can to push through what he has supported in the past, right? >> that's right. he is one of the fiercest warriors on the war on women. >> if he wins, jones, will embolden other governors in states to follow his model? virginia is huge in the general election. and i think for democrats, it's very important that terry mccaulive win, to number one, protect the integrity the of the
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vote. we know where republicans are going with this. your thoughts if cuccinelli wins. >> we have to worry about voter disenfranchisement in every state with a republican governor. we're seeing in texas that the restrictions they put in place are making it harder for women to vote, even republican women. so, you know, it would be a disaster. i'm sure he would act on his agenda. but i would be surprised to see it happen. >> what do you make of president obama going down there on sun, going to virginia, the clintons have been there. terry mccaulive is almost like a brother to bill clinton. as close as guys can get in friendship and in family. will that have an impact? i think it signals they want virginia. >> yeah, they want virginia and they want to put together the obama coalition and also expand it. and so the president coming down really does say this is crucial to my base, this is crucial to my next three years, you know, this is going to be a bellwether. and either really reenergize or
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demoralize the democratic electorate in other states. >> the demographics of virginia have changed quite a bit over the last ten years as a much more cultural diverse state, southern state. what does that mean in this off year? motivating minorities to vote, i think, is going to be a real big thing. what's your sense of the turnout from what your people have seen on the ground? >> that's what we're concentrating on. from here to the -- to election district attorney. it's all going to be about turnout. frankly, that was true also in virginia in 2008. it was all about turnout. and we did it. we took virginia in 2008, because we went door to door for president obama. and we're doing it again forterry. >> turning to ken cuccinelli's running mate, also a very interesting topic. the republican ticket in virginia isn't just anti woman nominee for lieutenant governor. ew jackson has made some homophobic views clear from day one, like this one recently resurfaced in a speech from
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2011. >> we were told not too long ago that now military chaplains will be allowed to marry same-sex couples. how in the world can we expect our military to be blessed by the hand of almighty god if we allow our military to become the equivalent of sod am and gomorrah. >> that's very important, the largest naval installation in the world is in norfolk. >> the shutdown turned some military folks against cuccinelli and his party. the most interesting thing i saw in that "washington post" poll from yesterday, ed, people have turned against the tea party in virginia. three times as many people say they're strongly opposed to the tea party as say they strongly support the tea party now. and when you look at whether those groups say they're going to vote next week, they are pretty much tied. and so this -- extremism on women and extremism on government, i think, has really -- >> so how does shutdown politics
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hurt cuccinelli? >> you know, i think it does, because sequester politics and the sequester is a lot like a slow-motion shutdown, across-the-board cuts, and that is hurting military families as it squeezes the pentagon. and i think the military voters hate the sequester and the shutdown more than they are homophob homophobic. and by the way, there is not a lot of homophobia in the military. there is not as much as e.w. jackson hopes there is. >> all right, joan walsh and also a wonderful to have both of you here tonight. and terri o'neill, thanks so much. thanks for coming from washington to do this. this is a big race. >> it is. >> virginia is a big state in 2016. it's one the democrats i think are going to have to have. and if terry mcallive is governor, he'll have his work cut out for the integrity of the vote. there's a lot more of "the ed show." stick around. stay with us. i'm josh lipton with your
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monday through friday, noon to 3:00 p.m. and "the ed show" social media nation, i tell you, we're buzzing today about kathleen sebelius' testimony on the hill. here are the top trenders voted on by you. >> let's dance! >> the number three trender. wild west. >> the individual market has been like a wild west. >> and the individual market plans change every year. this market has always been the wild west. >> obama's administration officials talk about taming the insurance marketplace. >> it has been underregulated. insurers could deny you coverage if you had a preexisting condition. >> it wasn't a marketplace at all. it was unprotected, unregulated, and people were really on their own. >> the number two trender. gop goes for broke. >> i don't think, madam secretary, there is one person in this room who is naive enough to think the republicans want to see this law work. >> i want to repealhe law of the land. is that clear?
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>> obama care spends too much. >> stop the train wreck that is obama care. >> we're not going to give up our request to remove and replace obama care. >> kathleen sebelius explains how a republican repeal would cost the country billions. >> what would be the impact if republicans had been successful? >> the estimates of the congressional budget office is that would it increase the deficit by about $110 billion in the first decade and close to a trillion dollars in the second decade. >> they're rooting for failure. >> in today's top trender. washington wizards. >> in the wizard of oz, there is a great line. >> i have a feeling we're not in kansas anymore. >> sebelius deals with a blizzard of oz comments at today's hearing. >> madam secretary, while you're from kansas, we're not in kansas anymore. >> i'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too. >> people went to see the wizard because of the wonderful things he did. >> the great oz has spoken! >> some might way we are actually in the wizard of oz
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nd the parallel universes we appear to be habitating. >> be gone, before somebody drops a house on you! >> i'm joined tonight again by joan walsh, what an arrogance coming from congressman joe barton from texas. >> yes. what. >> is the health care situation in kansas? he probably doesn't even know. in fact, i'm not convinced these people on this house committee on the republican side have even read the bill. the rhetoric is at an all-time high. >> i thought she did pretty well, given what she was dealing with and never broke down and, you know -- and told them what she was really thinking. i thought she explained the law very well. and she's not denying there are problems and the president is not denying that either. and we're concerned about those problems. but the level of faux outrage from republicans is just appalling. and the thing that gets to me, ed, too, is there is a little bit of complicity here in the media. today on salon i went back and i compared some of the headlines around the phony irs scandal and
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the phony benghazi scandal. remember in may we were supposed to be concerned about that and the presidency was falling apart. and he was either evil or incompetent. well, the incompetent meme is back. if he didn't know how badly things were going, he must be incompetent. and they have just learned how to tie this government in knots by using the power, they run the house, they can have hearing after hearing after hearing, and they -- and this is what they're doing. and so she is stuck there, rather than trying to solve problems. she is stuck there answering stupid questions by people who have not read the bill. >> i think these hearings are doing the country a favor. because i think taking the high road, and not blasting back at these republican congressmen and the obama administration officials and today, kathleen sebelius, just talking about how consumers have been unprotected. and, of course, the industry unregulated. and now we're having a big discussion about junk insurance and this is exactly what the republicans have been defending. and they don't even know it.
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>> right. i think that's a really good point. people do not understand how insurance really works. and they don't understand the risks that they have been taking, and that maybe they didn't know how little their policy was ultimately going to cover, god forbid, they should need it. >> are these hearings going to have an impact on people signing up? i mean, i think it's attention. i think all the attention that these hearings can get to the american people and now the president has come out -- or just within the last hour and a half, to debunk the most -- most recent lie about who exactly is covered when they do get a notice and how they can go -- i think this is all up side. >> right. i think it's mostly up side, if -- if the website -- now, i've defended them on the website from hysteria and overreaction. but i think if the web -- things would be better, duh. obvious point, if the website was working. because when people got these scary letters, they could automatically go and they could get reassurance. the insurance companies aren't helping them figure out what -- how they can get covered and how
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they can get possibly a cheaper plan. a few people will pay more. but most people are going to find a cheaper plan. they can't do that as long as they can't -- >> what's the biggest challenge right now? obviously, the website. she was on record today, sebelius, saying it's going to be done by the end of november. >> right. >> they're going to have all of the quirks out or whatever you want to call them. it's going to be much smoother and they'll be able to handle all of the load. they hope to get 7 million people signed up by march. >> right. >> is that a reasonable number? >> you know, i'm going to say that's out of my area of expertise. they think they can do it. obviously, no one was helped by the website being so glitchy in this first month. but, you know, if they can get it fixed, i think what we are seeing -- you know, we saw in massachusetts, is that people -- maybe they browse, maybe they shop, but they don't sign up until they have to. and so, you know, they do have time to make this a normal experience for people who normally, like all of us, we start paying attention when somebody sets a deadline for us. as the deadline approaches, if the website is working well --
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>> you mean we procrastinate? >> i wouldn't say that about you, ed. >> no, i'm not -- no. i will tell you this. if i had been -- in the congress i would have read the law before i opened my mouth at hearing. >> you would not have procrastinated about that. >> if you want to do some in depth reporting and put some resources to it, the republicans have made fools of themselves with some oh of the comments and questions they had asked. if they just read the bill, clearly they would have seen that there were going to be americans who were going to be told they were underinsured and not going to qualify. you're going to have to make a change. >> well, and also, reporters need to be not accepting these horror stories at face value. when we see reporters going back and rereporting and looking at what people can really get when they can go to the exchange, you know, they're doing better. >> i don't think the republicans have ever been on the wrong side of history, as much as they are on this issue. joan walsh, thank you. thanks for being here tonight. coming up, what obama care means for the future of liberal politics. stay with us.
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p welcome back to "the ed show." this is a story for the folks who take a shower after work.
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conservative columnist krauthammer has draunt battle lines. >> the irony is that his signature achievement, obama care is the test of this new liberalism. and today, it hangs in the balance of a website or a promise here and there. so there's kind of a practical reality check on his ambitions. if he does not succeed with obama care, the cause of the kind of expansive liberalism, the entitlement state he's been looking for, i think they'll be set back a full generation. >> krauthammer is trying to make the case that the future of liberalism is based on the survival of junction insurance and the effectiveness of a website? the generation he's talking about will ultimately be better off because health care reform is what the nation needs and the american people know it, and that's what they voted for. now i've been saying it since
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day one on "the ed show." the set back on the functions of a website is one thing, but the basic principle of obama care is to give all americans access to affordable health care, which is a huge step forward. >> health care is very complicated and very personal, and it's easy to scare folks. and it's no surprise that some of the same folks trying to scare people now are the same folks who have been trying to sink the affordable care act from the beginning. [ applause ] and frankly, i don't understand it. providing people with health care, that should be a no-brainer. [ applause ] giving people a chance to get health care should be a no-brainer. >> joining me tonight, congressman from connecticut. you were a high school english teacher, correct, back in the day?
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>> history teacher. >> are the republicans on the wrong side of history in are you confident that they will pay a political price for this years to come? >> i think they're definitely on the wrong side of history as we've seen in the battle for social security and medicare and medicaid. and now to make sure that all americans have the ability and the access to get insurance that's affordable. this, to me, is so wrongheaded. ant great irony is that they're on the wrong side of conservatism. as you know, if democrats had their way, we'd have medicare for all. what we came up with, as the president said again today in massachusetts was a plan that was the seeds for which were provided by the heritage foundation that was launched by a republican governor with a massachusetts democratically controlled assembly but did so by taking the best of the private sector, the best of the public health system. and now, with the affordable care act, everything that
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science, technology and innovation can bring to baear t make sure that the american people get the very best and are saved from being destitute, from losing their homes. from being denied coverage. >> congressman, does the president need to do more than what he did today? i mean, today i thought it was outstanding. >> i think that the more that the president gets out there and explains it. as you have said a number of times, we need to underscore especially this, the underinsured here. and this is where the problem has occurred. and listen, with any rollout of any major plan there's going to be problems, but everybody should be pulling to the. and the president called and prevailed upon the whole nation to come together here. this is where i think the fault of conservatism is. here they have a plan that was, that is their line of thinking. >> and you know, here is a way to deal with the national debt,
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to deal with the sequester. because 18%, 18% of our gdp is expended in health care, the most inefficient business model in the world. and so here's the opportunity for us to change that by working together. the president's provided a plan and an opportunity. let's go after it together. >> house speaker john boehner just released the following statement in response the president's remarks. he says it's beyond disappointing that despite the evidence, the president continues to mislead the american people about his health care law. what's boehner smoking as of late? >> it's inconceivable that they would close down the government and then seek to default on the nation's responsibilities to defund and do away the affordable care act. this is what's outrageous to the american people. and people want to see us working to the to come up with a
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solution. if there's a problem, what they want practically is to fix it. >> you don't think the president's misled the american public at all on anything? >> he hasn't misled the public at all. anyone who understands insurance and how these policies come about, and i thought sebelius was very good today saying look, if these personal poll soys are renewed on an annual basis. >> great to have you. that's "the ed show." politics nation with reverend al sharpton starts now. good evening. and thank you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the president hits back on health care. today president obama went toe to toe against all those right wing critics who have been slamming the affordable care act. just a short time ago in boston, the president addressed to those critics head on and told them to explain